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Lint · Jun 01, 2006, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Well, I'm finnaly looking for a new graphics card. I have a PCI slot, and a PCI slot only. I am looking for teh best graphics card money can buy that supports PCI.

So i stumbled into this. This seems teh bet i can find.

Mwave Part Number: AA41030

Manufacturer Part Number: BFGR62256OC

Manufacturer Web Site: www.bfgtech.com

Description:

The only graphics cards in their class to support Microsoft DirectX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0, the BFG GeForce 6200 o verclocked graphics cards power the latest effects without compromising performance. Further, the GeForce 6200 GPUs include NVIDIA PureVideo to deliver crisp, vibrant video to the PC. BFG Tech is proud to back these cards with their famous Free 24/7 Tech Support and Lifetime Warranty.

Features:

# NVIDIA Intellisample 3.0 Technology
# NVIDIA CineFX 3.0 engine
# Microsoft DirectX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0
# NVIDIA nView multi-display technology
# NVIDIA Ultrashadow II technology

Technical Information:

# BFG GeForce 6200 OC
# Bus Type AGP
# Memory 256MB DDR or 128MB DDR
# Core Clock 375MHz (vs. 350MHz standard)
# RAMDAC Dual 400MHz
# API Support Microsoft DirectX 9.0, OpenGL for Microsoft Windows
# Connectors VGA, DVI-I, S-Video Out
# 281 million vertices/sec.

System Requirements:

# Intel PentiumIII, Celeron, AMD Duron, Sempron or Athlon class processor or higher
# 128MB of RAM
# CD or DVD-ROM drive
# 35MB available hard disk space (50MB for full installation)
# An available AGP 2.0 slot
# A minimum 250W power supply is recommended in systems where a number of other internal devices are installed
# Microsoft Windows 98 or higher, ME, 2000, XP, NT 4.0 with service pack 5 or 6
# An AGP 2.0 or higher compliant motherboards. Some motherboards violate the AGP specification and therefore this card may not physically fit in some systems

Package Contents:

# BFG GeForce™ 6200 OC graphics card
# Quick install manual
# DVI-I to VGA dongle
# Driver CD

Every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of all information contained herein. Mwave.com makes no warranty expressed or implied with respect to accuracy of the information, including price, product editorials or product specifications. Product and manufacturer names are used only for the purpose of identification.

Origianl Link to graphics card : http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch...one&nextlo c=

Im prabally guna buy this, but first did anyone ever buy from the website called "http://www.mwave.com" aka MWave.

Thanks In Advace

Does anyone have this graphic card and can give me some feedback. Thanks in advance.

kvndoom · Jun 01, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Um, that's an AGP card. You actually copied and pasted the specs without noticing that...?

But I have bought from mwave before, once or twice, and I don't recall any problems from them.

There are 1 or 2 PCI 6200's out there. One made by BFG, one by 3dfuzion (a BFG daughter company).

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ricewatch&NR=1

It's probably the best you're gonna get for PCI. 6200 isn't a bad low-end chip. And for 90$, it's not a bad deal.

BFG 256MB card:

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...006&pfp=BROWSE

Says pick-up only, so if you have a store close by... Best Buy carries that also. Not sure if the 6200 can really make use of the 256MB, wish I could help you there...

lightblade · Jun 01, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Did you just said PCI? Not PCI-E?

PCI graphic cards are no longer manufactured.

I don't think you'll find PCI graphic cards in stores, you may find them in gurage sales or those old computers that offices throw away

On top of that, YOU CAN'T PLAY GW with graphic card that use PCI slot.

GW support g-cards back to GeForce2, which uses AGP (Accelerated Graphic Port) slot.

Lint · Jun 01, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Thanks, Just noticed that now

I remeber a while ago that bestbuy was selling 6200 for 120$ now its 150

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Any ATI users that can tell be the best ATI card thats the interface PCI? Im not formiliar with ATI so i have no idea.

kvndoom · Jun 01, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightblade

Did you just said PCI? Not PCI-E?

PCI graphic cards are no longer manufactured.

I don't think you'll find PCI graphic cards in stores, you may find them in gurage sales or those old computers that offices throw away

On top of that, YOU CAN'T PLAY GW with graphic card that use PCI slot.

GW support g-cards back to GeForce2, which uses AGP (Accelerated Graphic Port) slot.

Please stop. You're wrong, and having a condescending attitude when you're wrong just opens you up for really bad flaming. Just a friendly warning.

Lint · Jun 01, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

So what do you recommend buying. I also want to play Eder Scrolls: Oblivion

Tachyon · Jun 01, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lint

So what do you recommend buying. I also want to play Eder Scrolls: Oblivion

Seriously, you'll never be able to play Oblivion with a PCI card! I tell you, that game sucks up more resources that FEAR ever did. Unless you want to go down the new motherboard and graphics card route I'd forget about Oblivion.

As for your original question, the best PCI card you're going to get is that 6200 mentioned above. I can't comment on any ATI cards though as I'm an Nvidia guy myself. Take a look here, I'm assuming you're in the Colonies though.

http://www.newegg.com/

I know loads of people who've ordered from Newegg without a problem.

Lint · Jun 01, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54

O Rly? systemrequirementslab says spmething else.

Autumn_Leaf · Jun 01, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lint

So what do you recommend buying. I also want to play Eder Scrolls: Oblivion

oooo

that wont happen till u have a higher end video card, and by higher end I mean at least 7000s series for nvida. and a really good motherboard and ram to boot.

only having a PCI slot doesnt give much inclination that u'll ever be playing oblivionanytime soon unless u do a complete overhaul

sry to say. if your looking for a new vid card try newegg or tigerdirect

Autumn_Leaf · Jun 01, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lint

O Rly? systemrequirementslab says spmething else.

sry for the double post, but responding to your response.

yea thats the min, req, dont believe that crap. thats around the same req as battelefield 2 had and trust me 512ram and 6600gt and I still had massive lag. bet u anything that your comp cant take obvilion for more than a few minutes without crashing, thats if u get it to work...

Lint · Jun 01, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

OK Finnal Desition time! What shoud i Buy???

~~~~~3DFuzion Geforce 6200 128MB DDR/PCI/TV-Out/DVI ~~~~~

Specifications

* GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6200
* Bus Type: PCI
* Memory: 128MB DDR
* Core Clock: 350MHz
* RAMDACs: Dual 400MHz
* API Support: Microsoft® DirectX® and OpenGL for Microsoft® Windows®
* Connectors: VGA, DVI-I, S-Video Out
* Vertices/Sec.: 263 million

NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6200 at a Glance

* NVIDIA® CineFX™ 3.0 engine
* Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 support
* NVIDIA® Ultrashadow™ II technology
* 64-bit floating point texture filtering
* and blending

Included in Box

* GeForce™ 6200 graphics card
* Quick install manual
* DVI-I to VGA dongle
* Driver CD,
NVIDIA® ForceWare™ unified graphics drivers
Full installation manual .pdf
NVIDIA® NVDVD™ 2.0 multimedia software

System Requirements

* Intel Pentium® III, Celeron®, AMD® Duron™, Sempron™, or Athlon™ class processor or higher
* 128MB of RAM
* CD or DVD-ROM Drive
* An available PCI 2.0 slot
* 35MB available hard disk space (50MB for full installation)
* Microsoft® Windows® 98 or higher, ME, 2000, XP, NT4.0 with service pack 4 or 5
* A minimum 300W system power supply

OR~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~XFX Geforce FX5200 PVT64KUAF7 Video Card

Model
Brand XFX
Model PVT64KUAF7
Interface
Interface PCI
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU Geforce FX5200
PixelPipelines 4
Memory
Memory Clock 333MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 128-bit
Memory Type DDR
3D API
DirectX DirectX 9
OpenGL OpenGL 1.4
Ports
D-SUB 1
DVI 1
TV-Out S-Video Out
VIVO No
General
Tuner None
RAMDAC 350 MHz
Max Resolution 2048x1536
SLI Supported No
Cooler Heatsink and Fan
Operating Systems Supported Microsoft Windows 95
Microsoft Windows 98
Microsoft Windows 2000
Microsoft Windows ME
Microsoft Windows NT 4
Microsoft Windows XP
Linux
Features
Features NVIDIA® CineFX™ Technology
Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)
nView™ Multi-Display Technology
Digital Vibrance Control Technology
Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Optimizations and Support
128-bit Studio-Precision Computation
Packaging
Package Contents 1 Cable, Manual, Driver CD, DVI to D-Sub Adapter

kvndoom · Jun 02, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

There's no contest between a 5200 and a 6200. Get the 6200.

Josh · Jun 02, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Gee this should be funny.

Blatantly ignoring that you won't be able to play Oblivion, heh. ;\

kvndoom; - No...just, no, quite a few people play GW on a PCI card...now hush.

ArTy · Jun 02, 2006, 07:42 AM // 07:42

I'm just suprised he has a 2.79GHz CPU yet only has a PCI slot...WTF??

Seriously, Oblivion is one of the most demanding games out there. Now way can a low-end card allow you to play it at a reasonable speed or at decent visual quality.

People are buying X1900XTs for Oblivion and this guy is comparing a 5200 to a 6200 -_-

Have fun with the slideshow. Just upgrade your motherboard to one that supports PCI-E, or at least AGP3.0.

kvndoom · Jun 02, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArTy

I'm just suprised he has a 2.79GHz CPU yet only has a PCI slot...WTF??

It's not as uncommon as you think. Many, many, store-bought computers (HP, Compaq, e-machines, etc) over the past few years have had shit-for-brains motherboards with no upgradability.

KIDGOOCH · Jun 02, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Goto www.pricewatch.com you can find the cheapest prices on everything there. The 6200 card can be found for $65. And pci cards are still being made, just not as many as before.

But on the site you can check for other cards that fit your requirements.